Dumbarton
1884–85 season
StadiumBoghead Park, Dumbarton
Scottish CupThird Round

The 1884–85 season was the 12th Scottish football season in which Dumbarton competed at a national level.

Scottish Cup

Dumbarton's run in the Scottish Cup was short-lived as they were knocked out in the third round by Pollokshields Athletic.[1]

Cup R1 Dumbarton Walkover Leverndale
4 October 1884 Cup R2 Dumbarton 2-0[2][3] Albion (Dumbarton) Boghead Park
Hutton
25 October 1884 Cup R3 Pollokshields Athletic 4-1[4][5] Dumbarton Haggs Castle, Glasgow
25'
30'

 OG 15' Referee: A Stuart

Dumbartonshire Cup

As the sport continued to grow, so did the demand for more competitive football, and so began the setting up of regional competitions for clubs in specific counties/cities. The first was nine years earlier with the first playing of the East of Scotland Shield (formerly the Edinburgh FA Cup) and with the formation of the Dumbartonshire Football Association in March 1884, the first Dumbartonshire Cup was put up for competition. With three of the strongest teams in the country at the time playing out of Dumbartonshire, it was no easy feat to win the cup, and Dumbarton required to see off both of their strongest local rivals, Renton in the first round and Vale of Leven in the final, to become the first winners for the county cup.

1 November 1884 First Round Dumbarton 4-0 Renton Boghead Park
Lindsay 25'
Brown
85'		 Attendance: 5,000
Referee: A Stuart
13 December 1884 Second Round Dumbarton 10-1 Helensburgh Athletic Boghead Park
Lindsay
Liddell
Brown
Wilson
Miller,J
McAulay


17 January 1885 Semi Final Dumbarton 3-1 Yoker Boghead Park
Wilson 55'
Keir 70'
Lindsay 77'		 scrimmage Referee: J Roxburgh
28 March 1885 Final Dumbarton 3-0 Vale of Leven Tontine Park
Lindsay
McKinnon 		Attendance: 3,000

Glasgow Charity Cup

Dumbarton reached the final of the Glasgow Charity Cup for the second time. Three tough matches against Rangers were followed by a final against their old adversary Queen's Park, where they lost by the only goal.

11 April 1885 SemiFinal Dumbarton 2-2[6] Rangers Hampden Park
scrimmage 10'
Pringle 30' (OG)		 55'
scrimmage 75'		 Attendance: 3,500
18 April 1885 SemiFinal Replay Dumbarton 1-1[7] (a.e.t.) Rangers Hampden Park
scrimmage 75' Young 18' Attendance: 5,000
2 May 1885 SemiFinal 2nd Replay Dumbarton 2-0[8] Rangers Hampden Park
Lindsay
Miller 89'		 Attendance: 7,000
9 May 1885 Final Dumbarton 0-1 Queen's Park Hampden Park
Watt 5' Attendance: 3,500

Friendlies

During the season, 22 'friendly' matches were played, including a 0-0 draw against Queen's Park to celebrate the opening of the 'new' Hampden Park and 5 games against English opposition with mixed success. In all, 9 were won, 7 drawn and 6 lost, scoring 50 goals and conceding 30.

30 August 1884 Friendly Dumbarton 4-1 Partick Thistle Boghead Park



 scrimmage Referee: A Colville
20 September 1884 Friendly Dumbarton 3-0 Renfrew Boghead Park
Meikleham
McAulay
27 September 1884 Friendly Rangers 3-2 Dumbarton Kinning Park
Gossland 40', 65'
 Brown(S) 42'
scrimmage 60'		 Attendance: 3,000
18 October 1884 Friendly Queen's Park 0-0 Dumbarton Hampden Park
Attendance: 6,000
22 November 1884 Friendly Renton 2-3 Dumbarton Tontine Park
20'
75'

Attendance: 5,000
29 November 1884 Friendly Dumbarton 1-1 Queen's Park Boghead Park
Brown Attendance: 3,000
20 December 1884 Friendly Vale of Leven 1-6 Dumbarton Alexandria
Brown(S) 7'
Liddell
Liddell
(OG)
 Attendance: 5,000
27 December 1884 Friendly Queen's Park 2-1 Dumbarton Hampden Park
Harrower
Hamilton 		Brown(P) 15' Attendance: 5,000
Referee: Mr McKillop
1 January 1885 Friendly EnglandBlackburn Rovers 2-0 Dumbarton Leamington Road
Suter 80'
scrimmage 87'		 Attendance: 10,000
Referee: Mr Armerod
2 January 1885 Friendly EnglandAstley Bridge 4-0 Dumbarton Astley Bridge
Brindle 65'
Hogson
Douglas 		Referee: J Quinton
3 January 1885 Friendly EnglandWalsall Swifts 1-1 Dumbarton The Chuckery
Morley 30' Kennedy 60' Attendance: 2,000
Referee: Mr Ford
5 January 1885 Friendly EnglandAston Villa 1-1 Dumbarton Wellington Road (Perry Barr)
Brown 80' Liddell 60' Attendance: 5,000
Referee: Mr Roberts
24 January 1885 Friendly Port Glasgow Athletic 3-3 Dumbarton Clune Park
Graham 10'
McCartney
Hannah 70'		 33'
scrimmage 44'
Brown 61'		 Attendance: 3,000
7 February 1885 Friendly Abercorn 0-3 Dumbarton Blackstoun Park, Paisley


 Attendance: 3,000
14 February 1885 Friendly Hibernian 2-1 Dumbarton Easter Road
Lee 10'
Cox 40'		 Keir 75' Attendance: 2,500
14 March 1885 Friendly Dumbarton 1-3 Arthurlie Boghead Park
Jardine 15'
Donaldson 25'
 Attendance: 2,500
21 March 1885 Friendly Dumbarton 1-1 Jamestown Boghead Park
5' (OG) Wilson 40'
4 April 1885 Friendly Dumbarton 3-0 Hearts Boghead Park
McKinnon 20', 65'
McMillan
25 April 1885 Friendly Airdrie 1-1 Dumbarton Airdrie
Hastie (OG) Attendance: 1,000
16 May 1885 Friendly Dundee Our Boys 0-7 Dumbarton West Craigie Park, Dundee
Lindsay 8' 14' 17'
McKinnon
Kennedy 38'

Player statistics

Of note amongst those donning the club's colours for the first time was Ralph Aitken.

Only includes appearances and goals in competitive Scottish Cup matches.

Player Position Appearances Goals
Scotland James McAulay GK 2 0
Scotland Jock Hutcheson DF 2 0
Scotland Hugh Wilson[9] DF 2 0
Scotland Leitch Keir MF 2 0
Scotland Peter Miller MF 2 0
Scotland Black[10] FW 1 0
Scotland Robert 'Plumber' Brown FW 2 0
Scotland Robert 'Sparrow' Brown FW 2 0
Scotland Hutton[11] FW 1 1
Scotland Andrew Kennedy[12] FW 1 0
Scotland James Liddell FW 2 0
Scotland Joe Lindsay FW 1 0
Scotland William McKinnon FW 1 0
Scotland Michael Paton FW 1 0

Source:[13]

International caps

An international trial match was played on 7 March 1885 to consider selection of teams to represent Scotland in the 1885 British Home Championship. Robert 'Plumber' Brown, Joe Lindsay, James McAulay and Michael Paton played for a 'Counties XI' against a 'Glasgow XI' with the latter winning 3-1, Brown scoring the 'Counties' goal.

Subsequently, five Dumbarton players were selected to play, as follows:

- Robert 'Plumber' Brown[14] and Leitch Keir[15] both earned their first caps against Wales.

- Joe Lindsay[16] earned his sixth and seventh caps against England and Wales respectively. He scored the only goal in the 1-1 draw against the English - and scored a hat-trick in the 8-1 defeat of Wales.

- James McAulay[17] earned his fifth and sixth caps against England and Wales respectively.

- Michael Paton[18] earned his third and fourth caps against England and Wales respectively.

Representative matches

The Dumbartonshire Football Association played three representative matches during the season and Dumbarton players were selected to play as follows:

DateOpponentResultPlayers(Goals)
11 October 1884Glasgow3-3McAulay;Keir;Brown,P;Brown,S(1);Lindsay;Miller
31 January 1885Renfrewshire4-2McAuley;Hutcheson;Miller;Brown,S;Lindsay;Liddell(1)
7 March 1885Edinburgh4-1Hutcheson;Miller;Keir;Brown,S;McKinnon(1)

Reserve team

Dumbarton withdrew from the Second Eleven Association in protest at the unsuccessful attempt to have the previous year's final against Kilmarnock Athletic replayed.

References

  1. ↑ Smailes, Gordon (1995). The Breedon Book of Scottish Football Records. Derby: Breedon Books. ISBN 1-85983-020-X.
  2. ↑ "Albion 0 - 2 Dumbarton, Scottish Cup (04/10/1884)". Fitbastats.com. Retrieved 17 June 2019.
  3. ↑ "Dumbarton 2 - 0 Albion, Saturday, October 4th, 1884". The Sons Archive. Retrieved 17 June 2019.
  4. ↑ "Pollokshields Ath 4 - 1 Dumbarton, Scottish Cup (25/10/1884)". Fitbastats.com. Retrieved 17 June 2019.
  5. ↑ "Pollockshiels Athletic 4 - 1 Dumbarton, Saturday, October 25th, 1884". The Sons Archive. Retrieved 17 June 2019.
  6. ↑ "Dumbarton 2 - 2 Rangers, Glasgow Merchants Charity Cup (11/04/1885)". Fitbastats.com. Retrieved 17 June 2019.
  7. ↑ "Dumbarton 1 - 1 Rangers, Glasgow Merchants Charity Cup (18/04/1885)". Fitbastats.com. Retrieved 17 June 2019.
  8. ↑ "Dumbarton 2 - 0 Rangers, Glasgow Merchants Charity Cup (18/04/1885)". Fitbastats.com. Retrieved 17 June 2019.
  9. ↑ "Hugh Wilson - Player Statistics". The Sons Archive. Retrieved 7 June 2019.
  10. ↑ "Black - Player Statistics". The Sons Archive. Retrieved 7 June 2019.
  11. ↑ "Hutton - Player Statistics". The Sons Archive. Retrieved 7 June 2019.
  12. ↑ "Andrew Kennedy - Player Statistics". The Sons Archive. Retrieved 7 June 2019.
  13. ↑ McAllister, Jim (2002). The Sons of the Rock - The Official History of Dumbarton Football Club. Dumbarton: J&J Robertson Printers.
  14. ↑ "Robert Brown". Scottishfa.co.uk. Retrieved 16 June 2019.
  15. ↑ "Leitch Keir". Scottishfa.co.uk. Retrieved 18 June 2019.
  16. ↑ "Joseph Lindsay". Scottishfa.co.uk. Retrieved 14 June 2019.
  17. ↑ "James McAulay". Scottishfa.co.uk. Retrieved 13 June 2019.
  18. ↑ "Michael Paton". Scottishfa.co.uk. Retrieved 14 June 2019.
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