| The West Wing Thing | |
|---|---|
 Show logo. It depicts the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, draped with the "Practical Idealism" banner from the 1999 West Wing episode "Five Votes Down" | |
| Presentation | |
| Hosted by | Dave Anthony Josh Olson |
| Genre | Political podcast |
| Language | English |
| Length | typically 60–120 minutes per episode |
| Production | |
| Production | Brian Siano |
| Theme music composed by | Collyn McCoy (Diesel Boots) |
| Opening theme | "Calling All Wanglords" |
| Audio format | MP3 |
| No. of seasons | 7 |
| No. of episodes | 167 |
| Publication | |
| Original release | March 25, 2019 – September 22, 2022 |
| Provider | All Things Comedy |
| Related | |
| Related shows | The Dollop The Movies That Made Me Chapo Trap House Michael And Us The Audit |
| Website | westwingthing |
The West Wing Thing is a progressive media analysis and commentary podcast created and hosted by the screenwriters Dave Anthony and Josh Olson. First uploaded in 2019–22, the series discusses the TV drama The West Wing (1999–2006) on an episode-by-episode basis, from a left-wing political perspective.[1][2]
Early episodes were recorded in All Things Comedy in Burbank, California prior to the COVID-19 pandemic; later episodes were recorded from the hosts' homes.[3] Heavy metal musician Collyn McCoy ("Diesel Boots") provides the theme tunes, which vary each season, as well as theme tunes for regular sections such as "West Wing Brain," "Misogyny Rundown" and "Psaki Bomb."[4] Guests on the show included David Sirota, John Rogers, Wyatt Cenac, Matt Taibbi, Blaire Erskine, Thomas Frank, Jared Yates Sexton, Abby Martin, Eddie Pepitone, Bilge Ebiri, Lee Camp, Katie Halper, several members of Chapo Trap House, Briahna Joy Gray, Gareth Reynolds, Marianne Williamson, Nathan J. Robinson, Adam McKay, Adolph L. Reed Jr., Wil Anderson and Susan Saxe.[5]
Episodes
Season 1
| # overall | # in series | Date released | Episode discussed | Guests and other info |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | March 25, 2019 | "Pilot" | – |
| 2 | 2 | April 1, 2019 | "Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc" | – |
| 3 | 3 | April 8, 2019 | "A Proportional Response" | – |
| 4 | 4 | April 15, 2019 | "Five Votes Down" | – |
| 5 | 5 | April 22, 2019 | "The Crackpots and These Women" | – |
| 6 | 6 | April 29, 2019 | "Mr. Willis of Ohio" | Title misspelled as "Mr Wills of Ohio" |
| 7 | 7 | May 6, 2019 | "The State Dinner" | – |
| 8 | 8 | May 13, 2019 | "Enemies" | – |
| 9 | 9 | May 20, 2019 | "The Short List" | – |
| 10 | 10 | May 27, 2019 | "In Excelsis Deo" | – |
| 11 | 11 | June 3, 2019 | "Lord John Marbury" | with Faisal-Azam Qureshi |
| 12 | 12 | June 10, 2019 | – | Mid-Season Wrap, with Susan Saxe[6] |
| 13 | 13 | July 22, 2019 | "He Shall, from Time to Time..." | – |
| 14 | 14 | July 29, 2019 | "Take out the Trash Day" | – |
| 15 | 15 | August 2, 2019 | – | "Teaser - A Very Special West Wing Thing" |
| 16 | 16 | August 5, 2019 | – | "Our Very Special To Kill A Mockingbird episode", with Chris Wade (Chapo Trap House) |
| 17 | 17 | August 12, 2019 | "Take This Sabbath Day" | – |
| 18 | 18 | August 19, 2019 | "Celestial Navigation" | – |
| 19 | 19 | August 26, 2019 | "20 Hours in L.A." | – |
| 20 | 20 | September 2, 2019 | "The White House Pro-Am" | – |
| 21 | 21 | September 9, 2019 | "Six Meetings Before Lunch" | – |
| 22 | 22 | September 16, 2019 | "Let Bartlet Be Bartlet" | – |
| 23 | 23 | September 23, 2019 | "Mandatory Minimums" | – |
| 24 | 24 | September 30, 2019 | "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics" | – |
| 25 | 25 | October 7, 2019 | "What Kind of Day Has It Been" | with Luke Savage, author of the famous "How Liberals Fell In Love With The West Wing" article |
Season 2
| # overall | # in series | Date released | Episode discussed | Guests and other info |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 | 1 | January 6, 2020 | "In the Shadow of Two Gunmen" (both parts) | with John Rogers |
| 27 | 2 | January 13, 2020 | "The Midterms" | – |
| 28 | 3 | January 20, 2020 | "In This White House" | – |
| 29 | 4 | January 27, 2020 | "And It's Surely to Their Credit" | – |
| 30 | 5 | February 3, 2020 | "The Lame Duck Congress" | – |
| 31 | 6 | February 10, 2020 | "The Portland Trip" | – |
| 32 | 7 | February 17, 2020 | "Shibboleth" | with Katherine Krueger (Splinter) and Will Menaker (Chapo Trap House) |
| 33 | 8 | February 24, 2020 | "Galileo" | |
| 34 | 9 | March 2, 2020 | "Isaac and Ishmael" | "9/11 Special" with Matt Christman (Chapo Trap House); this episode of The West Wing was originally aired before the beginning of Season 3 |
| 35 | 10 | March 9, 2020 | "Noël" | – |
| 36 | 11 | March 16, 2020 | "The Leadership Breakfast" | – |
| 37 | 12 | March 23, 2020 | "The Drop-In" | with Alex Press (Jacobin) |
| 38 | 13 | March 30, 2020 | "Bartlet's Third State of the Union" | – |
| 39 | 14 | April 6, 2020 | "The War at Home" | – |
| 40 | 15 | April 6, 2020 | "Ellie" | – |
| 41 | 16 | April 13, 2020 | "Somebody's Going to Emergency, Somebody's Going to Jail" | with Luke Savage |
| 42 | 17 | April 13, 2020 | "The Stackhouse Filibuster" | with Matt Stoller (Goliath: The Hundred Year War Between Monopoly Power and Democracy) |
| 43 | 18 | April 20, 2020 | "17 People" | – |
| 44 | 19 | April 20, 2020 | "Bad Moon Rising" | Podcast episode is titled "Bad Title Rising" |
| 45 | 20 | April 27, 2020 | "The Fall's Gonna Kill You" | with Tom Sexton (Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 46 | 21 | April 27, 2020 | "18th and Potomac" | – |
| 47 | 22 | May 4, 2020 | "Two Cathedrals" | Podcast episode titled "Are you there God, it’s me, Jed?"; with David Sirota |
Season 3
| # overall | # in series | Date released | Episode discussed | Guests and other info |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 48 | 1 | May 11, 2020 | "Manchester" (both parts) | – |
| 49 | 2 | May 18, 2020 | "Ways and Means" | with Amber A'Lee Frost (Chapo Trap House) |
| 50 | 3 | May 25, 2020 | "On the Day Before" | – |
| 51 | 4 | June 1, 2020 | "War Crimes" | with Tarence Ray (Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 52 | 5 | June 8, 2020 | "Gone Quiet" | – |
| 53 | 6 | June 15, 2020 | "The Indians in the Lobby" | with Wasté'win Young (of the Dakota Access Pipeline protests) |
| 54 | 7 | June 22, 2020 | "The Women of Qumar" | with Savanna LaMaison (sex worker and activist) |
| 55 | 8 | June 29, 2020 | "Bartlet for America" | – |
| 56 | 9 | July 6, 2020 | "H. Con-172" | – |
| 57 | 10 | July 13, 2020 | "100,000 Airplanes" | with Oliver Willis (political blogger) |
| 58 | 11 | July 20, 2020 | "The Two Bartlets" | with Luke Savage |
| 59 | 12 | July 27, 2020 | "Night Five" | – |
| 60 | 13 | August 3, 2020 | "Hartsfield's Landing" | with Josh Androsky (Democratic Socialists of America) |
| 61 | 14 | August 10, 2020 | "Dead Irish Writers" | with Mary Kate O'Flanagan (screenwriter and story consultant) |
| 62 | 15 | August 17, 2020 | "The U.S. Poet Laureate" | with Rachel Joy Larris (Women's Media Center) |
| 63 | 16 | August 24, 2020 | "Stirred" | Also contains a listener mailbag |
| 64 | 17 | August 31, 2020 | "Enemies Foreign and Domestic" | with Ashley Stevens (Jog For Good) |
| 65 | 18 | September 7, 2020 | "The Black Vera Wang" | Podcast episode is titled "Black Vera Wanglord", a reference to the podcast's theme song |
| 66 | 19 | September 14, 2020 | "We Killed Yamamoto" | with Katie Halper |
| 67 | 20 | September 21, 2020 | "Posse Comitatus" | with Wil Anderson (TOFOP) |
Season 4
| # overall | # in series | Date released | Episode discussed | Guests and other info |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 68 | 1 | September 28, 2020 | "20 Hours in America" (both parts) | with Tarence Ray and Tom Sexton (Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 69 | 2 | October 5, 2020 | "College Kids" | with Virgil Texas (Chapo Trap House) |
| 70 | 3 | October 12, 2020 | "The Red Mass" | with Trevor Beaulieu (Champagne Sharks) |
| 71 | 4 | October 19, 2020 | "Debate Camp" | Leslie Lee III and Jack Allison (Struggle Session) |
| 72 | 5 | October 21, 2020 | A West Wing Special to Benefit When We All Vote | with Amber A'Lee Frost and Felix Biederman (Chapo Trap House). A vodcast uploaded to Vimeo.[7] |
| 73 | 6 | October 26, 2020 | "Game On" | with Briahna Joy Gray (Bad Faith) |
| 74 | 7 | November 2, 2020 | "Election Night" | with Briahna Joy Gray; episode released the day before the 2020 United States presidential election |
| 75 | 8 | November 9, 2020 | "Process Stories" | with Nando Vila (Weekends) |
| 76 | 9 | November 16, 2020 | "Swiss Diplomacy" | — |
| 77 | 10 | November 22, 2020 | "Arctic Radar" | with Amber A'Lee Frost (Chapo Trap House) |
| 78 | 11 | November 30, 2020 | "Holy Night" | with Nathan J. Robinson (Current Affairs) |
| 79 | 12 | December 7, 2020 | "Guns Not Butter" | with Rob Rousseau (49th Parahell) |
| 80 | 13 | December 14, 2020 | "The Long Goodbye" | Bored by the West Wing episode, the duo instead decide to discuss the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Past Tense", renaming the podcast The Star Trek Thing |
| 81 | 14 | December 21, 2020 | "Inauguration: Part I" | with Daniel Bessner (Jacobin, advisor to the Bernie Sanders 2020 presidential campaign) |
| 82 | 15 | December 28, 2020 | "Inauguration: Over There" | |
| 83 | 16 | January 4, 2021 | "The California 47th" | with Aaron Thorpe (@posadist_trapgd; Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 84 | 17 | January 11, 2021 | "Red Haven's on Fire" | with Wyatt Cenac (The Daily Show; Wyatt Cenac's Problem Areas) |
| 85 | 18 | January 18, 2021 | "Privateers" | with Tanya Turner (Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 86 | 19 | January 25, 2021 | "Angel Maintenance" | with Ashley Stevens |
| 87 | 20 | February 1, 2021 | "Evidence of Things Not Seen" | — |
| 88 | 21 | February 8, 2021 | "Life on Mars" | with David Sirota |
| 89 | 22 | February 15, 2021 | "Commencement" | with Branko Marcetic (Jacobin) |
| 90 | 23 | February 22, 2021 | "Twenty Five" | with Katie Halper and Matt Taibbi (Useful Idiots) |
Season 5
| # overall | # in series | Date released | Episode discussed | Guests and other info |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 91 | 1 | March 1, 2021 | "7A WF 83429" | with Aaron Maté (The Grayzone, The Nation) |
| 92 | 2 | March 8, 2021 | "The Dogs of War" | — |
| 93 | 3 | March 15, 2021 | "Jefferson Lives" | with Rebecca Bitton (Surviving Limbo) |
| 94 | 4 | March 22, 2021 | "Han" | with Daniel Bessner (Jacobin) |
| 95 | 5 | March 29, 2021 | "Constituency of One" | with Amy Westervelt (Drilled) and Josh Androsky (Democratic Socialists of America) |
| 96 | 6 | April 5, 2021 | "Disaster Relief" | with Robin Marie Averbeck (Liberalism is Not Enough) |
| 97 | 7 | April 9, 2021 | — | Crossover with Michael and Us (Luke Savage and Will Sloan) discussing Aaron Sorkin's appearance on RUMBLE with Michael Moore |
| 98 | 8 | April 12, 2021 | "Separation of Powers" | with Tom Sexton (Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 99 | 9 | April 19, 2021 | "Shutdown" | with Briahna Joy Gray and Adam McKay (The Big Short, Vice) |
| 100 | 10 | April 26, 2021 | "Abu el Banat" | with Katherine Krueger (Splinter, Elle) and Will Menaker (Chapo Trap House) |
| 101 | 11 | May 3, 2021 | "The Stormy Present" | with Felix Biederman (Chapo Trap House) |
| 102 | 12 | May 10, 2021 | "The Benign Prerogative" | with Aaron Thorpe (Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 103 | 13 | May 17, 2021 | "Slow News Day" | with Marianne Williamson (2020 U.S. presidential candidate) |
| 104 | 14 | May 24, 2021 | "The Warfare of Genghis Khan" | with Noah Kulwin (Jewish Currents) |
| 105 | 15 | May 31, 2021 | "An Khe" | — |
| 106 | 16 | June 7, 2021 | "Full Disclosure" | with Pete D'Alessandro (Iowa Bernie Sanders organizer) |
| 107 | 17 | June 14, 2021 | "Eppur Si Muove" | with Savannah LaMaison |
| 108 | 18 | June 21, 2021 | — | Podcast episode titled "Vamping"; No The West Wing content, as Olson and Anthony just discuss current events |
| 109 | 19 | June 28, 2021 | "The Supremes" | with Thomas Frank and Katie Halper |
| 110 | 20 | July 5, 2021 | "Access" | Episode entitled "Good Things Happen in Philly", with Susan Saxe |
| 111 | 21 | July 12, 2021 | "Talking Points" | — |
| 112 | 22 | July 19, 2021 | "No Exit" | — |
| 113 | 23 | July 26, 2021 | "Gaza" and "Memorial Day" | with Derek Davison (American Prestige) |
| 114 | 24 | August 9, 2021 | "Talking Points" (revisited) | Podcast episode titled "Season 5 wrap up", with Pete D'Alessandro (Iowa Capital Dispatch) and Richard D. Wolff |
Season 6
| # overall | # in series | Date released | Episode(s) discussed | Guests and other info |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 115 | 1 | August 16, 2021 | "NSF Thurmont" and "The Birnam Wood" | with Shanti Singh (Democratic Socialists of America) and Abby Martin |
| 116 | 2 | August 23, 2021 | "Third-Day Story" | with Shanti Singh |
| 117 | 3 | August 30, 2021 | "Liftoff" | with Lee Camp |
| 118 | 4 | September 6, 2021 | "The Hubbert Peak" | with Briahna Joy Gray |
| 119 | 5 | September 13, 2021 | "The Dover Test" | — |
| 120 | 6 | September 20, 2021 | "A Change Is Gonna Come" | with Daniel Bessner (Jacobin) |
| 121 | 7 | September 27, 2021 | "In the Room" | with Meagan Day (Jacobin) |
| 122 | 8 | October 4, 2021 | "Impact Winter" | with Josh Androsky (Democratic Socialists of America) and Adolph Reed |
| 123 | 9 | October 11, 2021 | "Faith Based Initiative" | — |
| 124 | 10 | October 18, 2021 | "Opposition Research" | with Tom Sexton (Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 125 | 11 | October 25, 2021 | "365 Days" | with Jared Yates Sexton |
| 126 | 12 | November 1, 2021 | "King Corn" | with Pete D'Alessandro (Iowa Capital Dispatch) |
| 127 | 13 | November 8, 2021 | "The Wake Up Call" | with Amber A'Lee Frost (Chapo Trap House) |
| 128 | 14 | November 15, 2021 | — | Podcast episode titled "Hiatus!"; No The West Wing content, as Olson presents a showcase of Diesel Boots songs, including various theme songs for the podcast |
| 129 | 15 | November 22, 2021 | — | Podcast episode titled "Mayor Pete Doc special"; No The West Wing content, with Luke Savage and Alex Press (Jacobin) |
| 130 | 16 | December 1, 2021 | — | Podcast episode titled "Special mini Crooked Media episode"; No The West Wing content, with Briahna Joy Gray |
| 131 | 17 | December 6, 2021 | "Freedonia" | — |
| 132 | 18 | December 13, 2021 | "Drought Conditions" | with Jen Briney (Congressional Dish) |
| 133 | 19 | December 20, 2021 | "A Good Day" | with Matt Stoller (Goliath: The Hundred Year War Between Monopoly Power and Democracy) |
| 134 | 20 | December 27, 2021 | "La Palabra" | with Eddie Pepitone |
| 135 | 21 | January 3, 2022 | "Ninety Miles Away" | with Gareth Reynolds |
| 136 | 22 | January 10, 2022 | "In God We Trust" | with James Fritz (comedian) and Justin Feldman (epidemiologist) |
| 137 | 23 | January 17, 2022 | "Things Fall Apart" | Podcast episode titled "Things ACTUALLY Fall Apart"; with Kate Willett (Dirtbag Anthropology) |
| 138 | 24 | January 24, 2022 | "2162 Votes" | with Walker Bragman (Paste, Jacobin) |
| 139 | 25 | January 31, 2022 | — | Podcast episode titled "Meet our free floating agent of chaos!", with Brian Siano, the podcast's researcher |
| 140 | 26 | February 7, 2022 | — | Podcast episode titled "The Hillary Clinton Master Class Part 1", with Amber A'Lee Frost (Chapo Trap House) and Catherine Liu (Virtue Hoarders: The Case Against the Professional Managerial Class) |
| 141 | 27 | February 14, 2022 | — | Podcast episode titled "The Hillary Clinton Master Class Part 2", with Julia Claire and Kate Willett (Reply Guys) |
| 142 | 28 | February 21, 2022 | — | Podcast episode titled "The Hillary Clinton Master Class Part 3", with Tom Sexton and Aaron Thorpe (Trillbilly Workers Party) |
| 143 | 29 | February 28, 2022 | — | Podcast episode titled "The Hillary Clinton Master Class Part 4", with Ashley Stevens and Meagan Day (Jacobin) |
| 144 | 30 | March 7, 2022 | — | Podcast episode titled "The Hillary Clinton Master Class Part 5", with Briahna Joy Gray, Katie Halper and Lee Camp |
Season 7
| # overall | # in series | Date released | Episode(s) discussed | Guests and other info |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 145 | 1 | March 14, 2022 | "The Ticket" | with Kath Barbadoro (comedian) |
| 146 | 2 | March 21, 2022 | "The Mommy Problem" | Podcast episode titled "Mommy Problem"; with Derek Davison and Daniel Bessner (American Prestige) |
| 147 | 3 | March 28, 2022 | "Message of the Week" | with Alex Fumero (writer and producer) |
| 148 | 4 | April 4, 2022 | "Mr. Frost" | Podcast episode titled "The Leak" |
| 149 | 5 | April 11, 2022 | "Here Today" | with Pete D'Alessandro (Iowa Capital Dispatch) |
| 150 | 6 | April 18, 2022 | "The Al Smith Dinner" | with Lisa Curry (Long Story Long) |
| 151 | 7 | April 25, 2022 | — | Review of The Trial of the Chicago 7, with Danny Bessner (Jacobin) and Bilge Ebiri |
| 152 | 8 | May 2, 2022 | "The Debate" | with Matt Christman (Chapo Trap House) |
| 153 | 9 | May 9, 2022 | "Undecideds" | with Vida Starr and Trevor Beaulieu (Champagne Sharks) |
| 154 | 10 | May 16, 2022 | "The Wedding" | with Will Menaker (Chapo Trap House) |
| 155 | 11 | May 23, 2022 | "Running Mates" | with Lisa Curry (Long Story Long) |
| 156 | 12 | May 30, 2022 | "Internal Displacement" | with Ashley Stevens (Jog For Good) |
| 157 | 13 | June 20, 2022 | "Duck and Cover" | with Gareth Reynolds (The Dollop) |
| 158 | 14 | June 27, 2022 | "The Cold" | with Tom Sexton (Trillbilly Worker's Party) |
| 159 | 15 | June 29, 2022 | "Two Weeks Out" | with Jared Yates Sexton |
| 160 | 16 | July 18, 2022 | "Welcome to Wherever You Are" | with Luke Savage and Blaire Erskine |
| 161 | 17 | July 25, 2022 | "Election Day" (both parts) | with Katie Halper |
| 162 | 18 | August 1, 2022 | "Requiem" | with Vida Starr and Trevor Beaulieu (Champagne Sharks) |
| 163 | 19 | August 8, 2022 | "Transition" | with Wil Anderson |
| 164 | 20 | August 15, 2022 | — | Review of "We Just Decided To", pilot episode of The Newsroom; with Wil Anderson |
| 165 | 21 | August 17, 2022 | "The Last Hurrah" | with Pete D'Alessandro (Iowa activist) and David Sirota |
| 166 | 22 | August 23, 2022 | "Institutional Memory" | with Nima Shirazi and Adam Johnson (Citations Needed) |
| 167 | 23 | August 29, 2022 | "Tomorrow" | a 3:12 episode consisting of the intro song, a brief observation that there was no political content in the episode, and the outro song |
| 168 | 24 | August 31, 2022 | "Tomorrow" | with Briahna Joy Gray |
| 169 | 25 | September 22, 2022 | — | "Special Appendix Episode - What's the deal with Louise Mensch?"; with Arthur Tiersky (screenwriter) |
Reception
Writing for Book and Film Globe, Kevin L. Jones praised The West Wing Thing, saying that the hosts "gleefully tear apart each episode of the West Wing for its smugness and centrist politics and I’m all for it. And they don’t just troll the show either; they lay down a solid case for every criticism they lob. They know how show business works, they know their American history […] and they’re certain they know who’s to blame for all of the West Wing’s issues: West Wing creator Aaron Sorkin.[8]"
In Fast Company, Joe Berkowitz wrote that "Anthony and Olson don’t approach their subject with reverence. Instead, their aim is to present The West Wing as a singularly corrosive force in American politics that has perpetuated incalculable and irreparable harm on society," saying that they "offer a compelling counter-narrative to the series’ nostalgia-soaked civic celebration."[9]
Veteran Irish journalist and former Washington correspondent Carole Coleman described The West Wing Thing as "irreverent and very funny."[10] Irish newspaper the Athlone Advertiser said, "If you find Aaron Sorkin's smug, centrist, sexist, childish waffle infuriating you can listen along to the podcast and watch a few episodes — which is what I have been doing and finding it quite cathartic."[11]
See also
References
- ↑ "Forget The Politics, Enjoy The Drama: The West Wing Celebrates 20 Years". December 7, 2019.
- ↑ "The West Wing Thing". Comedian Dave Anthony.
- ↑ Comedy, All Things (June 16, 2020). "The West Wing Thing". All Things Comedy.
- ↑ @MccoyCollyn (October 28, 2020). "I don't devote a lot of time to blowing smoke up my own ass, but I think the next @TheWestWingThi1 theme song migh…" (Tweet) – via Twitter.
- ↑ "The West Wing Podcasts". player.fm. 28 October 2020.
- ↑ Saxe, Susan (August 10, 2019). "Neoliberalism: My episode of "West Wing Thing"". Medium.
- ↑ "The West Wing Thing Reunion Thing". Vimeo. May 21, 2021.
- ↑ "The West Wing Thing Podcast review". Book and Film Globe. May 16, 2019.
- ↑ Berkowitz, Joe (October 15, 2020). "Before you watch HBO Max's 'The West Wing' reunion special, listen to skeptics of the beloved series". Fast Company.
- ↑ "At home with... RTÉ's Carole Coleman". September 9, 2020 – via www.rte.ie.
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